I'm always on the lookout for ways of rewarding users by recognising their content in some way. Our community sites make a point of highlighting the most interesting photos, blog posts, forums etc.
Turns out we are missing a trick by not doing the same thing with comments and apparently it's called "hoisting comments". Like it.
Wednesday, 13 August 2008
Hoisting comments
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Friday, 1 August 2008
Comments on articles - desirable bar the undesirables
As Adam reports, we had an interesting exchange yesterday about journalists' discomfort with comments on articles.
Part of this discomfort is almost certainly a reaction to the unfamiliarity of being so exposed to criticism and/or feedback. I am reminded of Guardian theatre critic Michael Billington's first foray into blogging. Because he's Michael Billington and because they could, people laid into him and one can imagine the poor man's confidence being justifiably shaken by the whole thing.
As Adam points out, the problem for national newspapers' online audience is that they are not and can never be communities.
Anyway, I hope that for most of the journalists the shock will pass and they will harden up. I vividly remember the first angry comment I received on a blog of mine and how shaken I was. But what doesn't kill you only makes you stronger (although it sometimes crushes you actually).
Anyway, the point of this post (at last!) is to reflect on what can be done - not only for the sake of the poor journalists but also for the visitor and the brand.
Et voila! Powazek offers 10 Ways Newspapers Can Improve Comments
- Require Accounts
- Set and Enforce Rules
- Employ a Community Manager
- Sculpt the Input
- Empower the Community to Help
- Link Stories to Comments
- Enable Private Communication
- Participate …
- … But Don’t Feed the Trolls
- Give Up Control
But the comments underneath the post give some fantastic additional insights which I utterly agree with. For example
- Do not give any truck to users who are unable to distinguish between "freedom of speech" and the freedom to be an offensive arsehole on someone else's website (I'm paraphrasing with that one)
- a clearly defined purpose for hosting the discussion
- a clearly defined set of rules - and staff or super-users empowered to use them
It's your website. Set firm but fair rules about conduct and deal with transgressors of the rules firmly and fairly.
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Labels: comments, community, journalists, social media
Friday, 18 April 2008
Editors are more neurotic than readers
"58 percent of editors said letting journalists join online conversations and give personal views would harm journalism, but only 36 percent of the public agreed."
Nice to have some research back up this counter-intuitive claim that we've always assumed here. Of course, it's not quite as satisfying as saying that 64% of the public thinking that it enhanced journalism, but you can't have everything.
This research is from an Online Journalism Credibility Study.
Other interesting findings:
Some 70 percent of editors surveyed said requiring commenters to disclose their identities would support good journalism, while only 45 percent of the public did.Somewhere in there is something about readers feeling more trust when they feel they know the person behind the journalist (c.f. blogging).
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Expressions of personal views seem to help boost readers' interest and trust in Web sites, said John `Bart" Bartosek, editor of The Palm Beach Post in West Palm Beach, Fla., and chairman of the credibility committee for the AP managing editors group.
"That's contrary to most of the traditions we've all grown up with, to keep our opinions, viewpoints and personal lives out of our story," Bartosek said.
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Monday, 17 March 2008
Ribbed for their pleasure
I'm being ribbed over at one of the Computer Weekly blogs- Downtime.
Affectionately, I hope.
They say...
User-generated content of every kind is all the rage in the meeja right now, and nowhere more so than online, where every website wants to prove it's passed Engagement 101 with flying colours. So much so that the trend is now officially a source of mainstream parody. Just watch this from the BBC's Mitchell and Webb show...
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Wednesday, 10 October 2007
Managing (and coping with) user generated content
Two interesting and related posts about managing user generated content which I've picked up on today. One is about forums, the other about moderating comments on articles. It's the same thing really, of course. Anyway...
First off, a piece from Online Journalism Review entitled Take a fresh look at your site's posting rules which, ummm, entreats you to take a fresh look at your site's posting rules .
And there's an interesting story about what amounts to anonymous election rigging to back it up.
If you last modified your content-submission rules 10 years ago, they might not address all the conflicts that could arise today on your discussion board or in your comments sections. I'd like to offer a few suggestions for rules that you might want to consider adding to your interactive website.
There are some good suggestions for things to include and I can't agree more with the author's view that:
And I would add that it's also good practice with a genuine community such as in a discussion forum, to occasionally ask users which rules they agree and disagree with because:
I've long believed that websites which accept content from users, from comments to discussion boards to wikis, ought to tell those users, in the plainest possible language, the rules that the site expects those readers to follow when they post. (The eye-glazing, mind-numbing legalese of a site's terms of service or privacy policy isn't enough.)
- On the whole, they will agree with sensible rules anyway
- They will be pleased and engaged to be asked for their opinion
- They might actually read them
- If they've agreed with them, they're more likely to observe them
The second article is from The Guardian. In Open door the "readers' editor" Siobhain Butterworth explains the difficulty in moderating user-generated content responding to pieces abotu the McCann case.
At least 20 pieces involving the McCanns have appeared on [Comment is Free] since Madeleine McCann went missing in May. Not all were blogs commissioned by Cif, some were comment pieces published in the paper and automatically transported to Cif. Hundreds of comments were posted to a few articles in September, after the Portuguese police named the McCanns as formal suspects, with headache-inducing consequences for the moderators. Discussion threads on four pieces were closed, or closed early. The Guardian's talk policy does not allow defamatory postings and the problem was that many of the deleted comments were no more than strong opinions weakly held - they had no basis in fact.
The moderators are not lawyers, or fact-checkers. They cannot give reasons to every user whose comments are deleted, though they try to do so when time permits. To put their task in perspective, on one Friday in September, more than 3,800 comments were posted on the Guardian website. The volume means that the moderators' approach to enforcing the talk policy has to be broad brush. The McCann postings stretched the moderating resources too far, the moderators told me. They were concerned about the number of postings they were deleting and they were aware that people were frustrated. All things considered, a decision was made to close threads down.
All sensible stuff. Interestingly, the biggest complaints came from the way the deletions and suspensions were communicated:
a short note explained that this was for "legal reasons". Some readers felt this was not so much an explanation as a lofty way of saying either "we're not going to tell you why" or "it's too complicated for you to understand".
It's easy to forget that people want to be treated as adults, and they want detail even if they aren't going to understand it. A lesson that is easy to forget.
And that - on the whole - moderators are not sub-editors; they are not steeped in media law and if in doubt, they will (or should) err wildly on the side of safety.
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